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Jul. 28th, 2002 | 01:47 am
mood: frustratedfrustrated

So some time ago I decided to upgrade my desktop computer. I obtained a new Asus K7333 m/b, a Athlon XP processor, and a zalman cpu cooler. I put everything together and got "CPU Error".

So then I took the CPU back to the store I bought it from and got a new one, which also generated a CPU error.

Then I ignored the problem for a while and realized that the time for returning the motherboard to the mail order company had passed.

So I got a new version of the same mother board. I tried the CPU and it failed in the new motherboard.

Then I tried a different power supply.

My remaining theory is the first motherboard was so bad that it damaged the chip. Unfortunatly the best way to test that is to obtain and try a new CPU, dropping even more money into this foolish quest.

The other possible things that haven't been replaced were either the CPU cooler or me.

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i had a similar problem last summer

from: warlock138
date: Jul. 28th, 2002 11:10 am (UTC)

while building a machine for my brother. what is USUALLY a simple afternoon project turned into a month long fiasco. (why is it that when i build a machine for a total stranger it works fine, but when building it for my brother it takes forever)
put it together, turned it on and bam... cpu error
sent the chip back, sent the mobo back
they tested them and said it worked fine... so i was like ok...
got the board and cpu back from them and still got a cpu error...
so i had it narrowed down to some other piece of hardware that would cause the cpu error. which was strange, because usually other pieces of hardware wont cause a cpu error. so i tested the ram and that worked fine... (for now) then i tested every single card on the machine one by one and they worked fine on other machines, but on this mobo i couldnt even get it to P.O.S.T
it would let me get to the cmos on the first attempt, and after that it wouldnt even start up, it would power up and then shut down...
so after weeks of research and endless hours of trial and error i found out the following:

well, the first problem was that the via 133 chipset on the board had some known issues and the northbridge/southbridge chipsets were known to cause data corruption on the ide bus when used with a soundblaster live sound card (of course, my brother had a soundblaster live) this was discovered only AFTER i had read "what a great mobo this is" in toms hardware, arstechnica, etc. etc. so we got a turtle beach sound card.

the second problem, was that his geforce 2 mx card didnt work properly with that motherboard because it used a non standard (whatever happened to following specs, isnt that why they are called "standards") amount of power and his agp slot wasnt supplying it... so we got an ati radeon instead

the third problem, was right about at this time the ram died for no apparent reason (but when i tested it on another machine, it fried the motherboard of that older machine because the machine couldnt recognize all 512 meg... so there went another machine down) so i put in some new ram

finally it ran, but would overheat, so i added some fans, and a new heatsink/fan combo

it worked fine for me but after about a month and a half away at college, my brother started reporting that it would just randomly shut down.

so when he was home for christmas break, we discovered that it had a bad power supply too... so we replaced that.

could ANYTHING ELSE have gone wrong???

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from: moonglade
date: Jul. 29th, 2002 03:05 am (UTC)

Well you probably already know this but apparently Athlon and Duron processors are very delicate because the chip itself is in the top of the package under the gold bit whereas they used to put the chips under the package.

This is so the heat gets away better but you have to be really really careful about putting the heatsink on the cpu so as not to damage it. I was terrified when I did this on the Duron but is seems okay.

Making computers is always horrible. Mine sat on the floor here for ages half finished because I couldn't face messing with the thing.

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from: alienghic
date: Jul. 30th, 2002 02:06 pm (UTC)

Yes, I knew that they were delecate but hadn't thought they were so delicate. I've got yet another CPU to try with a different heat sink... lets hope this goes well.

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