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Feb. 16th, 2007 | 11:13 am

I just read about safe2pee.org from this article.

It's a website to help find gender neutral restrooms, something rather useful for the gender variant who don't feel like being harassed for not looking like whatever the sex field on their drivers license says. (Also this could be useful if a parent needs to help an opposite gendered child above some age.) ((I just think I know more gender variant people than parents)).

Unsurprisingly they have the most data for San Fransisco but Portland, Seattle, Boston and Cambridge all seem to stand out of their tag cloud.

I wish more restrooms weren't gendered. One common assumptions is that one gender is "cleaner" than the other. But I don't think that's true. It seems like women's restrooms are actually more likely to have pee on the seat cover than mens rooms while mens restrooms smell a bit stronger. (Both dirty, just differently).

As far as I can remember the biggest difference between mens and womens restrooms is the nature of the graffiti.

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from: marnanel
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 07:45 pm (UTC)
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That's a squatter site (er, so to speak)

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Usqueba

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from: usqueba
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
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I wouldn't mind a gender neutral bathroom. Let me pee in peace and I don't care WHO is in the next stall, etc.

I beg to differ about cleanliness. I've cleaned both at various jobs and the men's were almost always *filthy* (I won't go into detail. Ew).

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 11:10 pm (UTC)
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Ok so my experience is somewhat limited... but I do think womens restrooms are dirtier than expected.

I wonder what the difference at the burbank fry's is like. I know the womens room is pretty horrific there.

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no, YOUR mom

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from: theinfamousmom
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 10:21 pm (UTC)
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Your code hiccupped. :)

Many malls are now putting in "family" bathrooms so parents of either gender can take their kids in. But I suspect they wouldn't look kindly on people without children going in there.

I don't think one gender is necessarily cleaner than the other, when it comes to public restrooms, but I must say that when I was working at the library we had a lot more cleanup problems with the men's restroom than the women's. And that's not counting the man who dropped dead in there.

The library management also had to insist that a male transvestite use the men's room after several women objected to his using the ladies' room. He was quite firm about the fact that he wasn't transgender, he was just a man in a dress.

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
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Your code hiccupped. :)

Thanks, why do I have so much trouble remembering the close quote.

He was quite firm about the fact that he wasn't transgender, he was just a man in a dress.

It'd seem to me restroom usage for transvestites would get confusing after a while.

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secretslip

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from: secretslip
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 10:32 pm (UTC)
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Stall one: peeing only
Stall two: pooping allowed

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Josh

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from: irilyth
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
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Does that list include "one-hole" restrooms, i.e. facilities much like a residential bathroom, with a single toilet and a standard floor-to-ceiling door? Those seem fairly common, and while sometimes there are two of them and each is listed as being gender-specific, I feel like it's not at all uncommon to find places with a single such restroom, or with two that aren't gendered.

That seems different somehow than a non-gendered restroom with multiple stalls.

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Feb. 16th, 2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
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I've noticed that Starbucks if they have one restroom it will be marked unisex. However if they have two, they'll mark them as gendered, even though they're single person rooms. (That seems like an inefficient use of resources).

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Desiree

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from: madduckdes
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 03:49 am (UTC)
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I've had several "emergencies" where I have said screw it and ducked into the men's room. I'm almost always sorry that I bothered.

At some places where the women's room is clean, the men's room is clean. But at the kind of joint where the women dribble on the seat, the men outright piss on the floor and rip the stall doors off.

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schizoform

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from: schizoform
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 05:45 am (UTC)
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Out on the east coast, there's evidently a lot of awareness that most women "hover" instead of sitting, and thus that their restrooms are more nasty. I find this hard to believe.

At the same time, I'm aware of some "hard data" that says men's restrooms are cleaner. It remains unclear to me whether this is because of menstrual waste or because men are sloppy and urine, given time, is a disinfectant. Jury's out. Anyway interested in your opinions.

Are women's bathrooms less clean than men's because of menstruation? Or because sloppy peeing is disinfectant?

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 07:58 am (UTC)
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My hunch is that women go through more paper products which eventually end up spilling out of the trashcan.

I'm not sure whose less likely to forget to flush. But I've seen random gross stuff in restrooms of both genders.

Whats the hard data you have?

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schizoform

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from: schizoform
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
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couldn't find the actual study, this is all i could find in a quick scan of the 'net.

http://www.cleanfax.com/howto.asp?H_ID=1401

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Susan

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from: aylara
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 06:33 am (UTC)
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Boy, I am surprised at the number of comments. So I had to peek. :)

I have noticed gender neutral "family" bathrooms and I have used them alone and not felt odd about it. Maybe that's because I actually have used them with a child on occasion.

I have brought my son into a men's bathroom on an emergency when there was no one else in it. I have only ducked into a men's room for extreme emergencies and I have almost always regretted it.

I have also noticed that there is a preponderance of people using the paper seat covers out here. In the midwest, they were common but it wasn't as common to have them used. In a public restroom it was more likely, but I noticed that at both of my California jobs, people used the paper thingies. At other office jobs in the Midwest, it was considered almost rude to use the paper things, because we all knew each other. I did once have an associate who peed on the seat, and since there were only three of us who worked in the store, we knew who had done it, and I confronted her by asking why the seat was wet. ^_^

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Feb. 17th, 2007 08:01 am (UTC)
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It took me a long time to even imagine how a woman could end up peeing on the seat.

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