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Nov. 2nd, 2008 | 12:32 am

Old time fairy tales, as in the Brothers Grimm, have fairy tales that teach children that the real world is a brutal place. Modern fairy tales protect the children and make believe the world is a happy and cheerful. Which is better?

Should fairy tales...

reveal the brutal nature of the real world?
12(66.7%)
be happy and cheerful?
6(33.3%)

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Jeffrey

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from: jeffrey
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
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You can't teach a three year-old that the world is a horrible place. They won't really comprehend it, and it may just end up scaring them senseless (and do YOU want to be up all night with them? ;)

There's a lot of misery in life. Plenty enough to last. But remember that time when you were a kid and didn't know how much life sucked? And how happy and carefree that was? Why on earth would we want to steal that away from a child?

Of course there's a limit... you should not shelter your kids from the world, or close them off from it entirely. And there is an age they reach when they'll discover the truth, and should.

But in this respect... let little kids be kids, I say. We get rushed into adulthood too soon as it is, no need to rush it and crush their happiness.

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from: clynne
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 05:47 pm (UTC)
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I read lots of traditional fairy tales when I was growing up and they didn't steal my childhood away from me.

They taught me that sometimes you can beat the monsters.

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Jeffrey

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from: jeffrey
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
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Sure, but the question wasn't really about what the impact of said stories might be, it was more about saying "hey kid, life sucks!" early on or letting them at least bask in innocence for a while. At least to me. YMMV. :)

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geeki

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from: geeki
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
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both depending on the age and with a little moderation :)

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pouched fox

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from: pouchedfox
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
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this thinking reminds me of cement cuddlers:

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"Unfortunate Child, do not mistake me for a living thing, nor seek in me the warmth denied you by your parents. For beneath my plush surface lies a hardness as impervious and unforgiving as this World's own indifference to your mortal struggle. Hold on to me when you are sad, and I will weigh you down, but bear this weight throughout your years, and it will strengthen your limbs and harden your will so that one day no man dare oppose you"

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Susan

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from: aylara
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 08:12 pm (UTC)
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Awesome link.

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Susan

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from: aylara
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 08:08 pm (UTC)
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I voted for brutal nature, but my understanding was that the stories by the Brothers Grimm were never intended to be for children. I thought they were meant to record traditional stories of folklore.

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Nov. 2nd, 2008 11:00 pm (UTC)
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some of the old nursery english language rhymes commemorate some dark parts of english history Nursery Rhymes - Lyrics and Origins!

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Sam Malfoy

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from: sam_malfoy
date: Nov. 5th, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
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In my opinion everything comes down to the way you educate your child.
I mean, I love fairytales and I enjoy reading them when I was little. But I was raised within an awesome family and my mom, and particulary my dad, never really hide me the 'real world'. I was raised with principles and the thirst for knwoledge and when I found out (a little more older, mind you) about the true fairy tales I love them even more!

And I still do believe in happy endings and that the world can be hapy and cheerful if you want it to be like that.

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Nov. 5th, 2008 06:52 pm (UTC)
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There's a lot of spoiled children here, many lack an understanding of how working now can lead to greater pay offs in the future.

Also most indicators I can see suggest life is going to be a lot harder for nearly all of us.

I wonder how best to prepare kids for living in a refugee camp or dealing with water rationing or surviving any of the horrible things that tends to happen in a failed state (like Afghanistan, Iraq, or Somalia).

I've read that even Mexico is in a low-grade civil war between the central government and the drug cartels., and my sources suggest its not going well for the central government.

Though it is probably best not to end up with the unhealthy obsession for staring at disaster that I have.

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Sam Malfoy

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from: sam_malfoy
date: Nov. 7th, 2008 12:19 am (UTC)
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Yes. You are rigth.

Here, in my own city, the situation is getting nasty. Murders, rapes, assaults, kidnaps. Hell, you can't even walk in your own street without getting mob. I don't know if I have an angel besides me or I'm just really really lucky, but I'¡ve only been informed, not assaulted in any way.

But *takes deep breath* I don't know. With all the stuff I've been going through. All the despair, the sadness, the fear, not in my town, with my own family, it made me realice that you need to have a free mind.

You can't be expecting always the worst thing to happen. Yes, shit is going to hit the fan. Take a bath and move on and do not be afraid. You can make a change. You can be better. You can help.

At least, that's what I'm constantly telling myself, when the sky is gray and I can hardly see past my own hands.

I don't steal. I don't lie (not much xD). I try not to be judgemental and stupid. I try to read and know before I talk. I know I can be wrong and I know I've made mistakes. I lear from them.

And that's what I'm going to teach my children. That's what I'm teaching my nieces.

You can't prevent what's coming. But you can prepare. I'm not saying I'm gonna teach my kids to hunt xD But I'll try to expand their minds so they can think for themselves and figure out a way. To care for everyone, not only themselves. To reach out a hand. To *think* (so many many people can't do even that) it's what important, at least for me.

I guess I ranted a little, no? xD


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