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Jun. 27th, 2001 | 01:19 am

4 hours of trying to get windows to work in my mostly linux environment.

I got win2k installed, I got it to log onto my samba server in domain security.

Then I tried to install MS Office. And the office installer kept crashing with some registry error. There was also a problem with the sound blaster live driver which might be the real reason for win2k's crashing.

So I stopped trying to install office onto the file server and tried for just the local drive, then I went and took a shower. When I came back the system had rebooted into linux.

The only reason I'm doing this is because I have the client that wont go away they have this custom business management app that I translated from something off of a minicomputer.

Unfortunatly I did it in microsoft access 2.0, using access basic.

The current bug list is there were some Y2K issues that corrupted some data, and then they decided to upgrade form win 3.1 to win95 which broke the lame printing routines. So I've got patch the printing components to conform to a more recent printing API. And I have to make their frigging checks line up properly.

I hate trying to line stuff up onto a preprinted form.

Not to mention the pain of getting one of my computers to actually run windows, there's been too much bit rot since I last tried.

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from: soulsong
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 01:32 am (UTC)
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"Unfortunatly I did it in microsoft access 2.0, using access basic."

You deserve everything you get, my friend. :)

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from: alienghic
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 01:55 am (UTC)
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But I was young, foolish, and lazy.

*Big pouty expression*

I did this thing at least 7 or 8 years ago, that's gotta count for something. There weren't decent database tools for windows back then were there?

At least not ones that poor collage students could afford. I couldn't have done it on linux as it just barely could boot back then.

It's not fair having to do code maintenance on something I did that long ago. "Why can't code just die off?", she asks thinking of all those cobol and fortran programs still in service.

I

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from: soulsong
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:18 am (UTC)
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Hah! You're talking to someone who started her PC software development career by converting Access 2.0 so-called applications into something that could actually be used and maintained. I still bear the scars my friend.

Even now, if a job description has the slightest sniff of a mention of Access about it, I turn it down flat. I'd get a ban on touching the stuff written into my contracts if I could.

Access 2! I spit on its grave! May those who wrote applications in it be cursed, yea, even unto the 12th generation!

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:34 pm (UTC)
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12th generation? Can I pretend those are years, so I only have 5 more years of having to deal with this?

I think you must be a better consultant than I to be able to avoid having to return to dealing with access.

Perhaps having to fix these bugs is a fitting punishment for having been foolish enough to write in access to begin with.

I'd had a few CS classes by the time I'd done it. My design wasn't completely horrible. Please you have to believe me... Forgive me for my sins...

*Diane collapses to her knees sobbing uncontrollably before the assembled courtroom.*

(Diane further hopes that people reading this can detect the exagerations are intended for humorous affect)

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from: soulsong
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:50 pm (UTC)
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*giggle* Okay, you're forgiven, this time.

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Bochs?

from: anonymous
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 11:22 am (UTC)
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Could you maybe use one of those things that creates a virtual computer and install windows on that. Can't remember what they are called.

...Went and had a look on the freedos site and found out. Here is a quote from someone:

"Bart Oldeman writes this about using other PC emulators to run and debug FreeDOS: I think I should mention these because they provide virtual machines, are portable (esp. Bochs: Linux/Unix, Windows, MacOS) and hence allow you to debug things like fdxms without rebooting. Bochs is quite mature now: it's just slow because it emulates everything including the CPU but for basic DOS that's not such a big deal: you get XT-like speeds on a PII 400Mhz. It's also back in active development: check out bochs.sourceforge.net. version 1.2.1 has just been released. See also this for an outdated FreeDOS screenshot. Plex86 is a free alternative for VMWARE and hence is much faster than Bochs, but is still in the alpha stage - mainly interesting for plex86 developers right now and you have to be familiar with compiling kernel modules to be able to use it. They're making good progress however, and Win95 was reportedly booted within 2 minutes."

or maybe that Wine thing?
Sorry I probably don't know what I'm talking about!

love

Moonglade

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Diane Trout

Re: Bochs?

from: alienghic
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:44 pm (UTC)
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I haven't tried bochs in a while, but I have tried:

VMware
Win4Lin
Wine

However since I also want to play a computer game I didn't get a chance to finish, I want something that supports DirectX 7. Wine has recently picked up some support though I haven't tested it. Also installers tend to fail under wine. VMware is the most stable solution but is slow. Win4lin is faster, but can only run Win9x. Win9x is bad, bad code. (almost as bad as access 2.0)

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narcissus-alicious

Whoooosh!

from: nalicious
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:11 pm (UTC)
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*stands up for the second paragraph*

WHOOOOOOSH WHOOOOSH WHOOOOOOSH

*sits down before she gets dizzy and lets it all just pass over her head*

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Diane Trout

Re: Whoooosh!

from: alienghic
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:36 pm (UTC)
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Oh... hmm... that must be the email version of the glazed expressions I can get when explaining some of what's going on in my life.




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narcissus-alicious

close

from: nalicious
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 02:43 pm (UTC)
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...but WHOOOOOOOOSH sounds so much more fun than just blankness

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Diane Trout

Re: close

from: alienghic
date: Jun. 27th, 2001 05:46 pm (UTC)
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*grin*

Not only does it sound cooler, *wooosh* actually has more meaning than blankness.

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