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Jan. 2nd, 2003 | 10:48 am

Hmm...

After my encounter with the jehovah witnesses, I started thinking about atheism and humanism a bit more.

I'm wondering if being atheist makes one more likely to support socialist-style social welfare and disaster relief programs.

For me at least, since I don't believe that there is a "god who will provide", support for dealing with disasters both personal and societal needs to come from other around me. Therefore creating institutions that provide support to those in need is in my self interest, since I may be one of those in need.

(I wonder if discussing why reciprocation is necessary to make disaster relief programs trustworthy would support this argument.)

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Life Rebooted

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from: hopeforyou
date: Jan. 2nd, 2003 11:01 am (UTC)
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For me at least, since I don't believe that there is a "god who will provide", support for dealing with disasters both personal and societal needs to come from other around me. Therefore creating institutions that provide support to those in need is in my self interest, since I may be one of those in need.

I think this is just logical, whether one believes in god or not. Maybe my old religious upbringing has faded (okay, I never believed in the vast majority of it anyway, but a few of the aphorisms like "Do onto others as you would like done onto you" were catchy and wise) but I believe it has been said that "god helps them who help themselves".

I don't understand how anyone can have totally blind faith that whatever happens is "god's will". People are given free will and the right to self-determination so they can make decisions for themselves.

And I think creating institutions that provide support for disaster relief and such are extremely valuable for people who are theists of one form or another, and for those who believe in the parable of the good samaritan. No reason why people of all stripes can't act on their better nature regardless of creed.

(I don't know if I'm an atheist or not -- but I left Christianity long ago.)

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Diane Trout

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from: alienghic
date: Jan. 4th, 2003 09:17 pm (UTC)
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Part of my question stemmed from me trying to understand why white conservative christians are so attached to the republican party. They like to argue that churches can take over the social welfare programs instead of being done through government action.

Perhaps church based social services can work, though I tend to view that as an effort to cut poor people (especially the non-white poor) from reliable social services.

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